Re: (erielack) Marion Div. post-4/1/76

[Will Enser <alcoman_@_net.bluemoon.net>]

Makes sense to me Mike.  Thanks for the informed answer!

Will

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Michael Connor wrote:

> Will - I would bow to Steve Timko or my father, J. W. Connor, on this but it 
> is not uncommon in merging seniority districts for those holding original 
> seniority in a piece of a large merged district to have prior rights or 
> seniority in that district.  If, for example, an EL roster was merged with a 
> PC roster everyone, former EL and PC, would hold combined or merged seniority 
> from the date of the roster merger but still hold their original seniority 
> dates on their former EL or PRR territory.   Thus a 3-1-63 EL seniority date 
> would trump a 2-1-60 PRR date on former EL territory.  The first few years of 
> a merged roster see less crossover movement than later years when many of the 
> old heads have retired.
>       I would think that might be the reason a 1990 service date couldn't 
> hold a regular assignment on the former EL.  Also keep in mind that the EL 
> rosters were staffed to handle many trains daily and by the 1990's trains were 
> rare commodities on the Conrailed EL so that the old heads were concentrated 
> on fewer assignments.
>       Hope that helps a bit
> M. J. Connor
>
>> From: Will Enser <alcoman_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>> Reply-To: Will Enser <alcoman_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
>> Subject: Re: (erielack) Marion Div. post-4/1/76
>> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:21:54 -0500 (EST)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Gents
>> 
>> I had a good friend who hired on with Conrail ca 1990 or thereabouts from 
>> the NYLE.  He was in the "Renovo Pool" and tried a number of times to get 
>> on a train on the Tier working from Olean to Jamestown.  He told me that 
>> the locals were all held by "Erie Guys" and said that there was some kind 
>> of protection in the agreement that only allowed old timer EL guys to work 
>> that job.  Any truth to this?
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Will
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 Smtimko_@_aol.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Rich
>>> 
>>> I was working in Youngstown DY office on 04-01-76.
>>> 
>>> I believe that the Marion Dispatcher came to Youngstown on 03-31-76 to 
>>> take
>>> care of their work from Kent to Galion.  (They formerly handled Kent to
>>> Marion and I believe the Dayton Branch also.)
>>> 
>>> Once again, I'm thinking back 28 years......I believe that MECI, MECO, 
>>> COME,
>>> and CIME ran via Columbus-Galion-Akron-Kent and on to Meadville.   (They 
>>> may
>>> have originally had other symbols, such as OM-8, etc.).  Other  trains 
>>> with
>>> former EL crews operated Kent to 
>>> Akron-Warwick-Orrville-Mansfield-Crestline.
>>> Those trains were BRC-76,  BRC-78, IHB-7 and IHB-9.  There was a PB train
>>> operating for a short while  also.
>>> 
>>> The former EL Mahoning Division (Binama Building) office and the former 
>>> PC
>>> Valley Division(Stambaugh Building) office were combined in the fall of 
>>> 1979 (I
>>> believe) and moved into the Ohio One Building and the Youngstown Division
>>> was formed.
>>> 
>>> I worked the Kent to Galion portion of the former EL a few times in  1976 
>>> and
>>> 1977, and there were a few locals operating to service  industries.  Of
>>> course, Harding Yard at Ontario (Mansfield) was, and  is to this date, 
>>> active with
>>> Fisher Body business.  Today the Fisher Body  business travels from 
>>> Harding
>>> Yard to Mansfield on a yard crew move to make  connections out of NS Oak 
>>> Street
>>> Yard.
>>> 
>>> After the Youngstown office consolidation in 1979, I worked 2nd trick 
>>> Asst
>>> Chief Disp  (Conway to Crestline) and later, due to force reductions, 
>>> worked
>>> 1st trick Dispatcher Massillon to Bucyrus.  Later when Ft Wayne was 
>>> closed
>>> (1982) the job worked Massillton to Ft Wayne (Adams Tower).  The  former 
>>> EL crews
>>> manned their own trains from Crestline to Ft Wayne (Huntington  crews) 
>>> and
>>> from Crestline to Kent (Marion crews).
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps somewhat.
>>> 
>>> Keith Robbins---you out there to make any corrections required and to add 
>>> to
>>> this?
>>> 
>>> smt

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