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- Subject: (erielack) More on Subway Cars on DL&W
- From: "Paul R. Tupaczewski" <paultup_@_optonline.net>
- Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:07:16 -0400
From Pat McKnight (Pat_McKnight_@_nps.gov):
More correspondence regarding the transportation of subway cars by the DL&W.
This correspondence is from a subject file kept by E.B. Moffat, General
Superintendent of the DL&W. Initially the file dealt only with the movement
of subway cars from ACF in Berwick, but in this correspondence the railroad
is transporting Pullman Company built subway cars from Chicago via the NKP
(Chicago to Buffalo) using their four modified gondolas. In addition the
PRR and Erie are inquiring about using the DL&Ws gons.
The contents of the folder is being transcribed by Brad Schaffer. Currently
a little over half of the folder is transcribed. More will follow.
081
Scranton, Nov 26, 1935
EBM (E B Moffatt)
VDT (V D Thayer)
CJS (C J Scudder)
MRF
JJG
RMW (R M White)
GWM
JHL (J H Lerbs)
WAM
JJ McHale
Di (E-B)……
AC&F Co advise will make first shipment of subway cars from Berwick Dec 3rd.
Arrange accordingly.
HJM (H J Mullaghy)
10:30 AM
082
Scranton, Pa., November 30, 1935
HJM-Scranton (H J Mullaghy)
RMW-Hoboken (R M White)
Referring to previous correspondence concerning movement of new subway cars
from Berwick to Hoboken. Speed of trains must not exceed 20 miles per hour.
Be governed accordingly. Acknowledge.
E.B.Moffatt
10:15 am
cc to CJS (C J Scudder)
VDT (V D Thayer)
083
kn j Mob Nov 30th 35-
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
Desk 3- ack- your wire date- re- speed of trains- handling subway cars not
to exceed 20 miles per hour- all concerned advised accordingly-
RMW- (R M White) 4 35 P-
084
December 10th, 1935.
File C-1007
Mr. E.B.Moffatt, G.S.,
The D.L.&W. Railroad,
Scranton, Pa.
Dear Sir:
Refers to your letter October 23rd in reply to ours October 21st regarding
movement of articulated five-unit trains from St.Louis for the Brooklyn
Manhattan Transit Co., and 150 single-unit subway cars from Chicago for the
Independent Subway System, New York.
With regard to cars from Chicago, we have been advised we are to handle the
February shipment (consisting of two 12-car units) and routing has been
specified via DL&W at Buffalo.
We presume there will be no question as to the use of two your special
equipped gondolas for handling these shipments.
Yours truly,
W.A.Collie
085
Hoboken, NJ, December 17, 1935
Mr. E.B.Moffatt
General Superintendent
Dear Sir:
Acknowledging your letter December 16, file 21915, movement of 25 subway
cars from Berwick December 18th for floating to 207th Street, New York.
We have arranged for the floating of these cars on Dec. 19th.
Yours truly,
R.M.White
Superintendent
086
Wire 11:30 AM
Scranton, Pa., Dec. 12, 1935
HJM-Building (H J Mullaghy)
File 123.37. GFTMgr. McTague advises train consisting 25 subway cars will
be ready leave Berwick morning 18th for Hoboken. Arrange handling usual
manner.
VDT (V D Thayer)
Cc: RMW (R M White)
JER
Agent Berwick
Mr.C.F.McTague – phone Ambruster
Mr. E.B.Moffatt
Mr. C.J.Scudder
Mr. E.M.Jenkins
JJG - Scranton
087
December 12, 1935
JQ-17182-D
Mr. J.P. Krumech, TM,
American Car & Foundry Co.,
30 Church Street,
New York, N.Y.
Dear Jack:
Your letter of December 11th, file 14w35, advising that twenty-five
additional subway cars will be ready for movement from Berwick, Pa. on
December 18th.
The two special equipped gondola cars used in the recent movement of 20
subway cars have been returned to Berwick and are now at the latter point so
there will be no trouble in so far as the handling of cars on December 18th.
Have also arranged with our people for the floating of these cars to 207th
St. in accordance with the second paragraph of your letter.
Very truly yours,
Charles F. McTague
General Freight Traffic Manager
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt
I already explained to Mr. Dell Roberts in Mr. Thayer’s Office that these 25
subway cars should be handled in one unit. Will be ready to move from
Berwick December 18th, and should be floated to 207th St., New York City on
December 19th on three floats. Arrange ten, ten and five respectively.
Will appreciate having these instructions complied with and information
'‘honed my office when the train leaves Berwick, also when the train leaves
Scranton.
088
December 16, 1935
21915
Mr. R.M.White
I am advised that there will be a movement of 25 subway cars in one train to
leave Berwick December 18. It is desired that these cars be floated to
207th Street, New York City December 19 on three floats, ten cars to be
loaded on each of two floats and five cars on the other.
Please be governed accordingly. Acknowledge.
E.B.Moffatt
Cc: C.F.McTague
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy) – Advise promptly time these cars leave Berwick
and arrival and departure Scranton. EBM
089
December 17, 1935
21915:
Mr. W.A.Collie,
Supt. Transportation,
Nickel Plate Road,
Cleveland, Ohio.
Dear Sir:
Replying to your letter December 10, file C-1007, with regard to movement of
subway cars from the Pullman Company, Chicago, for the Brooklyn Manhattan
Transit Co.
I note the Febry. Shipment from Chicago consisting of two 12-car units is to
be routed via the Nickel Plate – DL&W and we should be able to furnish two
of our special coupler gondola cars to protect this movement.
It is not clear to me why this shipment should move in two twelve-car units
instead of one 25-car unit. It has been the practice on our line to handle
these cars in 20 and 25 car units. Will you please advise on this feature.
Yours truly,
(E.B.Moffatt)
cc: Mr. G.J.Ray
Mr. C.F.McTague
Mr. V.D.Thayer
090
PA78 CAK=CHICAGO ILL 17 934A
Received 1935 DEC 17 AM 11:05
E B Moffatt=
Lackawanna RR Scranton Penn=
Rannel raising question about movement subway cars whether we move special
between Berwick and New York how many cars in train some question raised
about matter air brakes they wondering whether not these cars moved in a
freight train with other equipment or special formula=
CE Hall
091
Scranton, Pa. Dec. 17, 1935
C.E.Hall,
327 So. LaSalle St.,
Chicago, Ill.
We handle subway cars Berwick to Hoboken special trains usually twenty cars.
Account cars not equipped with standard couplers necessary have gondola cars
next to engine and cabooses with special couplers on one end of each.
E.B.Moffatt
1.00PM
Cc: Mr. C.F.McTague
092
Scranton, Pa. Dec 18th 1935
Mr. E.B.Moffatt
Your file 21915 Dec 16th. Subway train consisting of 25 subway cars, two
idlers, three gondolas left Berwick 9.31 AM. Arrived Scranton 12.56 PM.
Departed 1.30 PM.
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
Cc: VDT (V.D.Thayer)
093
Chicago – December 18, 1935
Mr. E.B.Moffatt:
At 9:27 yesterday morning, we wired you an urgent message relative the
handling of the subway cars and asked for an immediate reply, as this
information was desired by the Pullman Company by 12:30 PM. At 12:25, not
having heard from you, we called your office on long distance telephone (at
expense of $3.50) and promptly received the information required. Also your
Mr. Scanlon advised me on the ‘phone that he had sent out the reply to my
message at about 11:00 o’clock.
We received your message at 1:44 and the Western Union advised it was not
filed until 1:40, which would be about a half hour after I talked to your
Mr. Scanlon on the ‘phone.
It is regretted that in an emergency of this kind we could not have received
a prompt reply so that we could go along about our business, instead of
waiting for hours like we had to yesterday morning.
C.E.Hall
094
December 20, 1935
21915:
Mr. C.E.Hall,
Western Traffic Mgr. DL&W RR,
327 So. LaSalle St.,
Chicago, Ill.
Dear Sir:
I am in receipt of your letter December 18 with regard to information
desired by the Pullman Company by 12:30 PM December 17 concerning the
movement of subway cars to New York.
In looking over the file I find that while you state you sent Western Union
message from Chicago at 9:27 AM, it was not received in the Western Union
office at Scranton until 11:05 AM and probably reached my office about 11:15
AM. A reply was dictated shortly thereafter. When Mr. Scanlon talked to
you by telephone his recollection was that although the answer had been made
the message was not actually delivered to the Western Union until 1:00 PM
(not 1:40PM as stated).
It is our desire, of course, to furnish you with information you require as
promptly as possible and I am frank to say that I consider that when you
receive a reply at 1:44 PM to a telegram received in this office at about
11:15 AM, I cannot see much cause for complaint. Of course, if the Pullman
Company wanted this information by 12:30 PM, every effort should have been
made to comply with their request. However, inasmuch as the cars were not
ready for shipment, if I understand the situation correctly, the difference
of approximately one hour should not have been material.
Yours truly,
(E.B.Moffatt)
095
Scranton, Pa., December 23, 1935
File 123.37
Subject: DL&W Gondolas for handling Trains of Subway Cars
Mr. C.F.McTague,
General Freight Traffic Manager,
New York City, NY
Dear Sir:
Concerning the movement of trains of subway cars on their own wheels,
requiring the use of idler cars equipped special Westinghouse couplers to
handle, of which we have four cars.
Have request from Manager Freight Transportation Metzman (New York Central)
for the use of two these cars for handling subway cars from Pullman Co.,
Chicago around the middle of January to New York City via that line; also
similar request from Chief Trans. Rill of the PRR for use around February
1st; also, note you received copy of letter written by General
Superintendent Moffatt to Supt. Trans. Collie of the Nickel Plate,
concerning the use of these cars out of Chicago, Pullman Co. with subway
cars for Brooklyn, Manhattan Transit Co. via NKP-DL&W.
At present these cars are all at Berwick, the AC&F requested the extra set
of cars for handling subway cars around the plant while the other two are in
use handling trains to Hoboken.
Please advise what reply should be made to inquiries above.
Yours truly,
V.D.Thayer
Supt. Car Service
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt
096
New York, December 27, 1935
E.B.M. (E.B.Moffatt)
We have agreed with the Erie Railroad to permit their use of our special
equipment for handling subway cars from the Pullman Company at Chicago, at a
rental of $5.00 per car per day. Their Transportation Department will
handle the question of delivery of these cars with you.
It is understood that our assignment of these cars to the Erie will not
interfere with the movement of cars, which are to be routed via our line by
the Pullman Company.
G.J.Ray
097
Wire 11:50 AM
Scranton, Pa., Dec. 28, 1935
G Metzman
MFT New York Central RR
New York City, NY
123.37 Phone inquiry Brown concerning idler cars equipped Westinghouse
couplers handling subway trains. We have four of these cars two of which
will be required on our own rails and other two will be available Pullman
service Chicago handling trains subway cars New York and Brooklyn and
depends on shipping schedule Pullman Co. whether will be available service
via your line if they are our charge is $5.00 rental daily.
V D Thayer
Cc- Mr. E.B.Moffatt
098
Wire 11:50 AM
Scranton, Pa., Dec. 28, 1935
J C Rill
CFT Penna. RR
Philadelphia, Pa.
123.37 Your wire 21st concerning idler cars equipped Westinghouse couplers
handling subway trains. We have four of these cars two of which will be
required on our own rails and other two will be available Pullman service
Chicago handling trains subway cars New York and Brooklyn and depends on
shipping schedule Pullman Co. whether will be available service via your
line if they are our charge is $5.00 rental daily.
V D Thayer
DL&W RR
Cc- Mr. E.B.Moffatt
099
December 28, 1935
Mr. V.D.Thayer:
Following from the Vice President & General Manager dated December 27:
“We have agreed with the Erie Railroad to permit their use of our special
equipment for handling subway cars from the Pullman Company at Chicago, at a
rental of $5.00 per car per day. Their Transportation Department will
handle the question of delivery of these cars with you.
It is understood that our assignment of these cars to the Erie will not
interfere with the movement of cars, which are to be routed via our line by
the Pullman Company.”
Please be governed accordingly.
E.B.Moffatt
100
Scranton, Pa., December 30, 1935
File 123.37
Subject: Gondolas Equipped for Handling Subway Cars
Mr. C.E.Hall,
Western Traffic Manager,
Chicago, Illinois
Dear Sir:
We have in our equipment four gondolas equipped with special couplers for
use in connection subway cars moving in trains on own wheels.
Two of these cars will be required on line for some time to handle trains
subway cars from AC&F Co. at Berwick to New York City; the other two will be
available for handling trains subway cars from Pullman Co., Chicago, to
Hoboken account Brooklyn-Manhattan Transit Co. via NKP and DL&W. However,
there is another movement from Pullman, Chicago, to New York, and we have
been requested by Erie, PRR and NYC for use of these two idlers.
Will the movement of the Brooklyn cars permit this.
Yours truly,
V.D.Thayer
Supt. Car Service
Cc- Mr.E.B.Moffatt
101
Scranton, Pa., January 3, 1936
RMW (R.M.White)
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
CJS (C.J.Scudder)
I am advised there will be a train of 20 subway cars for movement from
Berwick to New York, Tuesday, January 7. Arrange handling in usual way.
These cars to be floated on two floats, 10 cars to each float. Acknowledge.
E.B.Moffatt
2:30PM
102
Scranton, Pa., January 3, 1936
C.E.Hall,
327 So. LaSalle Street,
Chicago, Ill.
Answer today Thayer’s letter December thirty re. Movement subway cars
requiring special coupler gondolas. Movement via Erie shortly requiring
this equipment.
E.B.Moffatt
Lackawanna
2:45 PM
cc: VDT (V.D.Thayer)
103
Cleveland 1-3-36
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
Our Mr. White has corresponded with Mr. Ray regarding use your special
equipped cars for moving subway cars. We anticipate will need two cars
within next few days, where can you deliver them and how much advance notice
will be required.
File A
P.W.Johnston
Erie
2PM
104
NA358 CAK=Chicago Ill 3 446P
Received 1936 JAN 3 PM 6 11
E B Moffatt=
Lackawanna RR Scranton Penn=
Thayers letter thirtieth special gondola cars President Morrison Rannel been
tied up jury duty past week unable get information Expect confer him tonight
or early tomorrow morning Will advise further=
C E Hall
105
Kn j Hob Jan 4th 36-
EBM
Ack- your wire- 3rd- re- movement 20 Sub-way cars Berwick to NY- Tuesday Jan
7th-
RMW (R.M.White)- 11 A-
106
New York, NY, January 4, 1936
File JQ-17182-D
Mr. E.B.Moffatt:
Confirming telephone conversation with Mr. Scanlon January 3rd, relative to
movement 20 subway cars from the American Car & Foundry Co. plant Berwick,
Pa. account Independent Subway System, New York, NY.
Shippers advise that these twenty subway cars will be ready for movement
Tuesday January 7th, and request that we arrange for float movement
Wednesday January 8th on two floats of ten cars each to 207th St. and Harlem
River, New York NY.
Please arrange accordingly, ‘phoning me time of departure from Berwick,
arrival at Scranton and departure from Scranton, as it is necessary that I
keep the New York Office of the AC&F posted as to movement over our line.
Charles F. McTague
107
730p Scranton, Pa., Jany 8th, 1936
W.A.Collie
NKP RR
Cleveland
Expect to deliver your line about 6:00PM tomorrow DL&W 60793 and 60768
special coupler gondolas required by the Pullman Company for train of subway
cars Saturday AM next movement NKP-DL&W to New York.
E.B.Moffatt
Cc: VDT (V.D.Thayer)
108
Scranton, Pa., January 7, 1936
C.E.Hall
327 So. LaSalle Street,
Chicago, Ill.
Can you now advise when Pullman Company will require special coupler
gondolas for movement subway cars.
E.B.Moffatt
Lackawanna
9:50 am
109
NA324 CAK=Chicago Ill 8 423 P
Received 1936 Jan 8 PM 5 54
E B Moffatt=
Lackawanna RR Scranton Penn=
(Your wire 7th) Artesian arrange deliver special coupler gondolas for Rannel
(Pullman Co.) to Judge (Nickel Plate RR) adorable=
C E Hall
110
730p Scranton, Pa., Jany 8th, 1936
JJGerrity
FC
RLD
IWK
WGA (W.G.Alexander)
Ban 55 from Hoboken tonight will have DL&W 60793 and 60768 empty gondola
cars with special couplers which must be moved through to Buffalo in this
train without fail and delivered to NKP promptly for movement to Pullman
Company, Chicago in order to protect special unit of subway cars from there
Saturday AM Jany 11th via NKP-DL&W to New York. All concerned watch
carefully.
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
Cc: VDT (V.D.Thayer)
111
CAK 17632
9:40 AM
Scranton, Pa., Jan. 9, 1936
W A Collie
S.T. Nickel Plate
Cleveland, Ohio
As per phone Newman Lackawanna gondolas six naught seven six eight and six
naught seven nine three equipped handling subway trains will be delivered
Buffalo tonight for movement Chicago your NC one protect movement subway
cars from Chicago Saturday via our respective lines. Protect.
VD Thayer
DL&W RR
Cc: Mr. EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
WGA (W.G.Alexander)
FC
HJM (H.J.Mulaghy)
RMW (R.M.White)
112
CAK 17632
9:45 AM
Scranton, Pa., Jan. 9, 1936
C E Hall – Chicago
Inroad idler cars beaded clarify beaded clientage equipped handle trains
subway cars will be delivered Judge movement Pullman Chicago not later Judge
NC three Buffalo tonight for use connection movement train subway cars
leaving Chicago Saturday via Judge Inroad for Independent New York.
V.D.Thayer
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt (keep me posted)
Mr. C.F.McTague
113
CAK 11632
Scranton, Pa., January 10, 1936
C.E.Hall,
327 South LaSalle Street,
Chicago, Ill.
Two special coupler gondolas Flindity Judge train NS ONE Baronet yesterday.
Advise when subway train leaves Chicago.
E.B.Moffatt
Lackawanna
11:50 am
114
PA88 CAK= Cleveland Ohio 11 1133A
Received 1929 JAN 11 AM 11 53
E B Moffatt=
DL&W RR Scranton Penn=
Referring to our wire January third reading as follows quote Our Mr. White
has corresponded with Mr. Ray regarding use your especially equipped cars
for moving subway cars. We anticipate will need two cars within next few
days. Where can you deliver them and how much advance notice will be
required unquote. Now understand we will need two cars about February fifth
to tenth. Can you now advise concerning question raised our wire above
quoted file B=
P W Johnston
115
CAK 8232
January 11, 1936
V D Thayer
Lackawanna RR
Scranton Pa
Fortified (Exch. Wires) inroad (DL&W) beaded (60) clarify (768) beaded (60)
clientage (793) now in Pullman yard. After day or two preliminary work here
idlers with twelve subway cars will move east honor (NKP-DL&W) immediately
on receipt New York have cars returned Pullman same route for handling
second train honor (NKP-DL&W). After second train forwarded Pullman will
decide who will handle third train. Mr. Byrne on number six today from
Buffalo is going into matter Monday. View having additional trains routed
inroad (DL&W).
C E Hall
9:33 AM
cc: Mr. J.J.Byrne
Mr. E.B.Moffatt
116
Chicago – January 11, 1936
Mr. J.J.Byrne:
Mr. Thayer is crowding us for some word that it will be in order to loan the
two idler cars to the New York Central, Erie and Pennsylvania for the
handling of subway cars from Pullman. I have insisted right along that we
get our allotment before loaning them to our competitors.
We are now lined up to handle the first two trains. I am not satisfied that
this is a proper division, taking into account that we have the equipment to
handle. Mr. Morrison’s hands seem to be more or less tied in this matter,
and when I talk to him am unable to get an entirely satisfactory lineup as
to just what his plans are. He is apparently crowding the New York Central,
Erie and Pennsylvania for cars and they in turn are coming to us.
Believe you are going to give the matter some consideration Monday morning
and will await your advice before making any further move.
C.E.Hall
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt
117
January 13, 1936
21915:
Mr. G.J.Ray,
Vice president and General Manager
Dear Sir:
I have the following Western Union telegram from Superintendent Johnston of
the Erie Railroad, under date of January 11:
“Our Mr. White has correspondence with Mr. Ray regarding use your specially
equipped cars for moving subway cars. We anticipate will need two cars
within next few days. Where can you deliver them and how much advance
notice will be required. Now understand we will need two cars about
February fifth to tenth. Can you advise concerning question raised our wire
above quoted.”
I understand that Mr. Byrne returned from Chicago Saturday, arriving Hoboken
on train No.6 and that he has the latest information with respect to future
movements of the subway cars from Chicago and St Louis. If we do not
require these special coupler gondolas for our own use after the movement of
the two trains which have been definitely routed our way, and one of which,
I understand, will leave Chicago tomorrow, I assume it will be in order to
loan them to the Erie at the prescribed rate of $5.00 per day, mentioned in
your memorandum December 27.
Please advise if we may notify Mr. Johnston accordingly.
In this connection, I also desire to call your attention to the fact that we
have had several requests from the N.Y.C. and P.R.R. for the use of the
specially equipped gondolas, but not definite answers have been made as to
our ability to furnish them as we have been awaiting some definite
information as to possibility of further movements over our line.
Two of the cars are now at the plant of the American Car and Foundry
Company, Berwick, from which point we expect a shipment of subway cars to
move tomorrow.
Yours truly,
(E.B.Moffatt)
cc: V.D.Thayer
118
New York, January 13, 1936
Mr. E.B.Moffatt:
Herewith letter from the Pullman Railroad Company dated January 10th, in
reference to shipment of twelve (12) subway cars via our line.
Please issue instructions for our people to be on the lookout for this
movement and handle promptly and carefully when received.
Before taking advantage of the maximum speed of 35 miles per hour our
Mechanical Department should make a very careful examination of this
equipment when delivered to us at Buffalo and determine what the safe
maximum speed will be on our railroad.
Also, see that our people at Hoboken are instructed to float promptly.
G.J.Ray
119
January 14, 1936
21915
Mr. G.J.Ray:
This will acknowledge your letter January 13, with regard to movement of 12
subway cars Chicago to Hoboken. Instructions have been issued to all
concerned covering handling on our line and we will be governed by the
opinion of our Mechanical Department representative, who will accompany the
train, as to speed restrictions with the understanding, of course, that at
no point must the train exceed 35 miles per hour.
E.B.Moffatt
120
Scranton, Pa. Jan. 14, 1936
WGA-Buffalo (W.G.Alexander)
FC-Binghamton (F.Cizek)
HJM-Scranton (H.J.Mullaghy)
RM White-Hoboken
Shipment 12 subway cars due leave Chicago via Nickel Plate night January 15
for movement Hoboken. Waybills will carry speed restrictions 35 miles per
hour maximum. Speed our line will be governed by instructions from
representative our Mechanical Department accompanying train Buffalo to
Hoboken but must not exceed 35 miles per hour. Supt. White arrange to load
12 cars on one float for prompt delivery 207th Street. Acknowledge.
E.B.Moffatt
3.30 PM
cc: VDT (V.D.Thayer)
CJS (C.J.Scudder) I assume you will have Mr. Meincke or other
qualified representative arrange to ride this train from Buffalo to Hoboken
and instruct crew as to the speed at which it can be safely handled.
121
fnj-Bing Jan 15th 36-
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
Your wire 14th- re- movement- subway cars rec’d- Will be governed
accordingly-
FC-11.30A- (F.Cizek)
122
cn q Bflo 1-15-36
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
Your wire 14th re 12 subway cars leaving Chicago today recd
WGA 1246pm (W.G.Alexander)
123
Hoboken, NJ, Jan.15th, 1936
Mr. E.B.Moffatt,
General Superintendent
Dear Sir:
This will acknowledge yours of the 14th re shipment 12 subway cars due to
leave Chicago via NKP night of the 15th for movement to Hoboken.
Will handle.
Yours truly,
R.M.White
Superintendent
124
Scrn Jan 16, 1936
S.H.Merrill, J.J.Gerrity, Di (E-W)……
Special subway train should leave Buffalo this PM for Hoboken, 12 cars and
two DL&W gons; speed to be restricted as per instructions from
representation of Mechanical Dept. but must not exceed 35 mph.
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
Cc: EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
125
PA167 CAK=WUX Chicago Ill 17 1220P
Received 1936 Jan 17 PM 1 34
V D Thayer=
Lackawanna RR Scranton Penn=
Twelve new subway cars and sample car also invitation basillic (26) code
(828) car parts forwarded baptist (11:30a) judge (NKP) plan run train
basilar (25) miles hour giving complete inspection each division=
C E Hall
126
Scranton, Pa., January 17, 1936
WGA-Buffalo (W.G.Alexander)
FC-Binghamton (F.Cizek)
HJM-Scranton (H.J.Mullaghy)
RM W-Hoboken (R.M.White)
My telegram January 14, shipment subway cars left Chicago 11.30 am C.T.
today. Maximum speed our line will be 25 instead of 35 miles per hour
subject to such further restrictions and instructions as may be issued by
Traveling Air Brake Instructor Meincke, who will accompany train.
Acknowledge.
E.B.Moffatt
4.30 am
Copies: CJS (C.J.Scudder)
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
127
Chicago-January 17, 1936
Air Mail
Mr.V.D.Thayer
Pullman Company forwarded 11:30 AM today via Nickel Plate subway cars as
follows:
City of New York 834 Sample car
1150 New Cars
1183
1184
1185
1186
1187
1188
1189
1190
1191
1192
1193
L&N 26828 Car parts
DL&W idlers 60793-60768
The Nickel Plate will run these cars about twenty-five miles an hour to
Buffalo and make complete inspection at every division point. The Pullman
Company and the electrical company furnishing the motors have inspectors
with the train.
C.E.Hall
Cc: Mr. Charles F. McTague
128
WF B X Binghn Jan 17-36
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
Recd yours date re shipment subway cars from Chicago 11:30AM date.
FC (F.Cizek)
1110 PM.
129
cn q Cleveland 1-17-36
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
Spl train consisting 12 subway cars and L&N 26828, 26834, DL60793 and 60768
leaving Chicago date. Under speed restrictions 25 miles per hour, destined
Independent Subway System New York. Routing via your line Buffalo. Will
advise later approximate time delivery your line. C-1007
W A Collie NKP
315pm
130
American Car & Foundry Company
Berwick, Pa.
January 17, 1936
Mr. E.B.Moffatt,
General Superintendent, DL&W RR
Scranton, Pa.
My dear Mr. Moffatt:
I promised to supply you with shipping schedule on the balance of the subway
cars. Since our conversation, that schedule has been changed twice – so the
one I am giving below is subject to change. Present schedule is-
January 28 20 cars
February 17 28 cars (require 4 service cars)
March 2 20 cars
17 25 cars
April 7 20 cars
21 20 cars
May 5 20 cars
19 22 cars
I trust that this information will be of some value to you.
Yours very truly,
W.S.Johnson
District Manager
131
January 18, 1936
Mr. W.S.Johnson, District Manager,
American Car & Foundry Company,
Berwick, Pa.
Dear Mr. Johnson:
Thank you very much for yours of January 17th, giving us the shipping
schedule on balance of the subway cars.
This is just the information was wanted to enable us to make our plans with
respect to the movement of these cars, as well as the ones coming from
Chicago.
Yours very truly,
E.B.Moffatt
Cc: Mr.Ray
Mr. Thayer Copy of Mr. Johnson’s letter, giving the schedule, is
attached.
132
PA 113 CAK=Cleveland Ohio 18 1114A
Received 1936 Jan 18 PM 12 21
E B Moffatt=
DL&W Railroad Scranton Penn=
Subway train will be delivered you Buffalo about four to five peem (PM)
date=
W A Collie NKP RR
133
January 18, 1936
Mr. A.F.K.:
Referring to our conversation yesterday. Mr. Hall may advise Mr. Morrison
that it will not be necessary for them to report per diem to us on DL&W
gonds 60768 and 60793.
We are willing to waive the per diem in accordance with request of the
Pullman Railroad Co.
E.B.Moffatt
Cc: Mr.V.D.Thayer, please note
134
Scranton, Pa. Jan. 18, 1936 wire 11am
P.W.Johnson-S.T. Erie RR
Cleveland, O.
File 123.37-Your wire to General Supt. Moffatt. Unable advise definitely
whether can loan you idler cars connection subway trains as four we own in
constant use present. When you are definitely assured cars moving your way
let us know about four days in advance of movement when we should be able to
advise if cars will be available.
V.D.Thayer
Cc: Mr. E.B.M.-Bldg. (E.B.Moffatt)
135
cn q Bflo 1-18-36
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
Special train of subway cars called to leave NKP Jct. about 230 PM today for
Hoboken with engine 1124, which we understand, is equipped to take this
train through to Scranton. Maximum speed our line to be 25 miles per hour
subject to further restrictions and instructions as may be issued by
traveling Air Brake instructor who will accompany train. Chief Dispatcher
Scranton will instruct Elmira Yard as to crew to be used on this train east
from Elmira.
WGA (W.G.Alexander) 204pm
136
MS FE X Buffalo Jan 18-1936
HJM (H.J.Mullaghy)
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
D-1 Previous wire. Subway train received from NKP at 3:15 PM date left NKP
Jct. Eng 1124 at 3:50PM made up from engine as follows. DL 60793, Subway
cars 834,1193, 1192, 1191, 1190, 1189, 1188, 1187, 1186, 1185, 1184, 1183,
1150, DL 60768 & L&N 26828 & caboose as rider.
WGA (W.G.Alexander) 1153 PM
137
kn j Hob Jan 18th 36-
EBM (E.B.Moffatt)-
This will ack yours 17th- re movement subway cars- will handle as outlined-
RMW (R.M.White) 11.20 A-
138
cn q Cleveland 1-21-36
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
Yours yesterday reference idler cars 60768 and 60793. Second movement subway
cars will not move until 1st week feby. Understand routing not yet
determined. If we have cars available believe influence via our respective
lines. Will you be willing under the circumstances waive per diem while
held our tracks, Chicago.
W.A.Collie NKP 245pm
139
Wire 4:00 PM
Scranton, Pa., Jan. 21, 1936
WGA-Buffalo (W.G.Alexander)
File 123.37. Phone Schindelbeck this PM. System cars 60768 and 60793 for
use handling new subway cars west from Elmira Ban. 55, Eng. 1642, 11:00AM
today enroute Chicago via NKP. Cut these two cars out at East Buffalo and
hold for disposition from this office.
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt: as per instructions Mr. Scanlon this PM
140
Wire 11:15 AM
Scranton, Pa., January 24, 1936
W.A.Collie
ST Nickel Plate RR
Cleveland Ohio
123.37. Your C-110. Idler cars holding E.Buffalo pending definite advice as
to when needed Chicago by Pullman.
VDT (V.D.Thayer)
Cc: Mr. C.E.Hall,
WTM DL&W RR
Chicago, Ill. Please advise.
Cc: Mr. E.B.Moffatt
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