Re: Re:RE: (erielack) Phoebe Snow and other Buffalo Trains

["Michael Connor" <mjconnor_rr_@_hotmail.com>]

BJC - Good obervation. The PRR Buffalo-NY City option, which I think almost 
always involved a change of trains, usually at Harrisburg or Baltimore, died 
with the advent of Amtrak IIRC, and thus outlasted the EL route.  Another 
exercise is to compile an all-time list of viable NY Harbor-Buffalo/Niagara 
Frontier routes which add the WS and NYO&W-WS or NYO&W-NYC(RW&O), etc.  The 
reduction in absolute physical capacity measured by tracks between the 
Niagara Frontier and New York Harbor between c. 1920 and now is staggering.  
The Erie, LV, DL&W, and WS were each at least double-track, the NYC, with 
exceptions especially east of Schenectady, was effectively 4 track, the PRR 
constricted to single track in places on its Buffalo route, and the 
NYO&W-RW&O single-track route arguably gave 14 NY-Bflo/NF tracks versus 4 (2 
NYC, 1 Erie, and 1 PRR) today.   MJC

>From: "Brian J Carlson" <brian_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>Reply-To: "Brian J Carlson" <brian_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>To: <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>
>Subject: Re: Re:RE: (erielack) Phoebe Snow and other Buffalo Trains
>Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:35:44 -0400
>
>For the Record you could also go NYC to Buffalo via the Pennsy
>(NYC-Phila-Harrisburg-Buffalo) why you'd want to is another question.
>Probably could go B&O at one time also but I have never researched it.
>
>Brian J Carlson P.E.
>Cheektowaga NY
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>From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
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>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re:RE: (erielack) Phoebe Snow and other Buffalo Trains
>
>
> > It would be interesting to see a passenger chart simiar to tonnage 
>charts
>between various segments of the several railroads.  I don't recall ever
>having seen such, so they probably didn't do them.
> >
> > Erie probably didn't do well in the New York City/Buffalo trade, because
>it was so hard to do.  NYC, DL&W and LV, in that order, would be what I
>would expect, with NYC far outstripping the others.
> >
> > Randy Brown
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > What I meant to say was Buffalo was number two in New York State. 
>Chicago
>was probably number two on the whole system.
> >
> > Ed
> >
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