Re: (erielack) Re: OT commuter railroads

["Neil Weinberg" <laurellines_@_gmail.com>]

Where at Hoboken can I buy an MTA Metro Card??  Neil Weinberg

On 8/20/06, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie_@_pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> bob gillis writes:
>
> > It has been said that the NYC subways would save money by allowing
> people
> > to ride for free; ie the cost of collecting the fares is more than the
> > fares generate.
>
>
> Well, I can fess up. Back in 1965 -- besides promoting the NYS&W's "Butler
> Day "Express" I was a teenage volunteer in the Buckley for Mayor cam[aign
> in
> New York City. It was proposed to do just that -- seeing as how there was
> going to be a hefty subsidy -- why not simply get rid of the fares and
> save
> the collection expense in the process?
>
> On NJT -- the ticketing system is a railfans delight -- and most of us
> make
> use of it.  ticket from Port Jervis to Hoboken is the same price as a
> ticket
> from Port Jervis to Hackettstown -- so when you go to Hoboken, you get
> your
> ticket back, and use it another time on another trip to another
> destination.
> Railfans never simply purchase a round trip, say to Hoboken. There's
> always
> more train riding to do at no extra cost.
>
> The other thing to remember -- when transferring via PATH at Hoboken (or
> Newark) -- never pay a fare to the Port of Authority. Always purchase a
> Metro Card of $10.00 or more. The MTA gives you a 20% discount, so the
> Metro
> card is worth $12.00 -- so there's 8 trips for $10, while the Port of
> Authory's Quick Cards will charge you $12.00 for the same number of rides.
>
> As it turns out -- the politically  conservative area of the City --
> Staten
> Island -- wangled this during the Giuliani administration. Staten Island
> Railway is "free" except at St George, as is the Staten Island Ferry.
> Residents also get a reduced toll on the Verrazzano Bridge, and a
> hopelessly
> deficit-ridden express bus system to bring them to Manhattan -- complete
> with a Staten Island HOV lane maintained in Morning Rush.
>
> Overall, the city received the "One City - One Fare" concept -- where a
> Metro Card is a free transfer between bus and subway, and
> monthly/weekly.daily cards that are just that.
>
> The only fly in the ointment is the Port of Authority won't take unlimited
> ride metro cards, and the TA doesn't offer any " free transfer" in
> connection with PATH.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
>
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