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Re: (erielack) EL & Erie 50' double door boxcars
Thanks very much for the data Paul, it helps out alot. Fire trucks ha?
Probably couldn't get those through the double doors, not with the doors
being in the middle of the car anyhow, hence end doors. Per your statement
in reference to Erie 66009, "This series didn't need the end doors because
it had double-doors, and a car could be driven through that wide opening.",
both of the models I bought have double doors, just to clarify.
www.rr-fallenflags.org has 3 nice Dan Bieracki photos of the Erie 65000
series cars.
Side view:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie65000b.jpg
View of end with doors, doors closed:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie65000adb.jpg
View of end with doors, doors open:
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/frt/erie65000bdb.jpg
At least the last 2 pictures are Erie RR photos, not sure about the first
one. Todd
Paul's original reply:
> 65030 did make it into EL (there's a photo in Larry DeYoung's color guide
of
> it) - the EL did replace the end doors with newly-fabricated non-opening
> ends on many of this series, but I believe that ~10-20 made it to the end
of
> EL.
>
>
>
> > Also, was the series of cars
> > 65030 was in ordered by Erie or the DLW?
>
> Erie
>
> > EL 65030 also has
> > doors on one end, I'd guess for loading autos.
>
> That's correct (and for firetrucks as well!)
>
>
> > Though the
> > Erie 66009 is stenciled for automobile/furniture loading, it
> > has no end doors. Did Erie decide it wasn't worth the extra
> > cost of end doors and making sure the car was facing the
> > right direction for loading? Or is this simple model making
> > inaccuracy?
>
> This series didn't need the end doors because it had double-doors, and a
car
> could be driven through that wide opening.
>
> > One more question. Cars lettered for automobile
> > and furniture loading, was this due to being able to ship the
> > car loaded both directions?
> > Or was it just mixed use, loaded in one direction only? The
> > former would've been much more economically pleasing
> > obviously. Just curious. Any and all answers will be much
> > appreciated. Feel free to throw in data that wasn't asked
> > about also! Todd
>
> Not sure about the usage patterns, but they were stencilled this way
because
> you could fit wide, bulky objects into the car (and furniture qualified
for
> this description in many cases!)
>
> - Paul
>
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