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Re: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
To all listers amd another interested people, The salt minning operation @
Silver Springs was owned by Morton Salt. Switched by Erie crews on the W/F I
belive that came west from Hornell and returned back to there. The other
salt min nung @ Gregsville was a different company. That line was serviced
by Bx crews near the end of the E-L. Before the merger Erie & Dl&W the cars
were picked up by the Rochester job, either Bx crews or Rochester crews.
Depends which crew was departing Rochester for Bx. the train always had HOT
cars for B M 7 to go west. They (the cars ) were either p/u @ Lancaster or
Attica. Depended what time in the AM it was. BM 7 was usually ordered about
3am to depart Bx. I hope this answers a few of your questions. I also worked
that run for about 6 years until we went into CR. If you have any more
questions let me know . D.J. Heckman. ELHS3294
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
To: "EL Mailing List" <erielack_@_lists.railfan.net>; <Smtimko@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:am 50 AM
Subject: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> Steve and List,
>
> I have a few questions about EL operations on this branch; Steve, I think
> you may be familiar with this area also. The first involves interchange of
> salt traffic with the G&W. It appears that this took place at 3 locations:
> the bulk of it occurred at Greigsville on the former DL&W main, and less
> than a mile from the big salt mine at Retsof; G&W Jct (Caledonia) on the
> Erie Rochester branch; and indirectly via P&L (Pittsburgh & Lehigh) Jct to
> B&O's BR&P line at Silver Springs on the Erie Buffalo main. (This last
> became the interchange with D&H when it assumed traffic rights on
> Conrail). Why 3 interchanges for the salt traffic?
>
> Secondly, was all of the Attica branch traffic routed through Buffalo, or
> did some head directly east from Attica? As far as I can tell, operations
> consisted of the following:
> RC-98 or 298, BFO-Rochester and running off BR-100 from Meadville
> RM-97, Rochester-BFO
> Groveland Turn out of Bison, mostly salt off the G&W at Greigsville
> Avon local, based at Avon and running west as far as Attica
>
> In addition, the salt business was heavy enough to warrant solid salt
> consists, although I don't know how frequently these were operated. Much
> of this salt traffic traffic headed east to the Port of Albany, which
> continued after 1976; the D&H operated dedicated consists of this traffic.
>
> In the 1970's, both BM-7 and BM-9 usually operated via Attica and River
> Jct mainly to avoid the steep WB grade on the B&SW. Did these trains and
> EB trains like ATC-4 and BS-2 pick up Attica branch cars at Attica to save
> the 25 mile backhaul to Bison?
>
> As an aside, the name "Attica Branch" is an anomaly, since branchlines are
> generally named for the endpoint, not the mainline Jct; eg: it's the
> Dayton Branch, not the Marion Branch.
>
> Paul B
>
>
>
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