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RE: (erielack) Bordellos on the DL&W
Fred-
Strange as that may seem, it has happened. Disguised as a resturant, the
building in the city of Paterson in the lower left of the first picture was
a "Bordello" complete with interior details (sorry, no pictures of that).
It is the brown building with red trim in the second picutre. In those days
you had to take your film to a store to be developed, so pictures of those
kind never were taken. I can't remember who built this model, but it
mysteriously showed up on my model railroad after one operating session.
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/BWLayoutImages/CityofPatersonNJch
ildrenspark.JPG
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/BWLayoutImages/CityofPatersonNJtr
afficroads.JPG
- -Joe Jordan
Train Nut Central
At 09:22 PM 6/4/2009 -0400, you wrote:
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>Hey Mike,
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>What would one model one of those Bordellos with in HO scale? I have a
couple of mobile home trailers to build, any suggestions on the colors?
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>Fred Stratton
>Boonton & Greenwood Lake RR in HO Scale
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>Salisbury, NC 28147
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>> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
>> Subject: Re: (erielack) Bordellos on the DL&W
>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:14:32 -0400
>> From: mdelvec952_@_aol.com
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>> The "cut-and-run" is correct.
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>> The "red light district" has a few explanations, all of which harken
to?the 19th Century. With full crews and, in the days before air brakes,
when you had a brakeman for every five cars in a train, a trainman?inclined
to visit trackside females would leave a red lantern near the tracks so
that his crew would know where to find him before departing.
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>> In reality, the?red lamp was just a signal that could have meant
anything that any crew agreed it would mean on any given day. Men could
have been shooting pool, gambling, anything. ?Back in the days when crews
were five men and bigger, they all weren't busy at every stop. And on some
branchlines, or in?timetable-and-train-order territory trains in the
inferior direction did a lot of waiting for superior trains.
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>> As for its use on the DL&W or Erie -- it certainly could have been.??
There's a book by Keenan that describes the 1860s-1880s on the M&E and DL&W
and he mentions the ills and vices so common to railroad men and how he
succumbed, and later tried to fix those problems by finding religion and
preaching to the trainmen. He didn't detail the methods by which the men
found their trackside vices. Joe Bromley's book about life on the Utica
Branch ca. 1900?talks about killing many hours spent waiting for other
trains, and just because they could.? Both are interesting reads
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>> Mike Del Vecchio
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter <peterh55_@_comcast.net>
>> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net; erielack@lists.elhts.org
>> Sent: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 9:31 am
>> Subject: (erielack) Bordellos
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>> A historic note from the N&W site about the Virginian RR.
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>> "the one the Brethren (old timers) liked best: an explanation of how "red
>> light" districts for bordellos got their nick name.
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>> Seems that train crews would leave their lanterns, still lit, outside the
>> "houses of ill repute" to let the callers know where they were, so they
>> could be "apprehended" for their next run. Also the article gave an
>> explanation of the term "cut and run", coming from steam engines, running
>> low on water; they would cut off from their train and run to the next water
>> tank...."
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>> Any recollections of this from the DL&W or Erie?
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>> Pete
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