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From: "Rich Behrendt" rbehrendt AT columbus DOT rr DOT com
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:02:20 -0500
Subject: Re: NYSW Interchange; was: (erielack) Telegraph symbols (3)
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Back in '77 (probably the '76/'77 winter), I went out w/a friend of mine to
photograph the NYSW local w/GP18 #1802 that used to come down to Croxton to
interchange...

We're standing just west of Tonnelle Ave. - The NYS&W crosses over the
bridge in the distance (on their way to Marion Jct.(?)) at the extreme east
end of Croxton at KW, and came down a ramp off of their track and pulled
down to this location. Several hundred feet to the right these tracks
merged into one and went through the Bergen Arches...

We got several shots of him pulling his caboose off and although I don't
recall, but yard crews might have been pulling the train into Croxton...

Interesting object (maybe an old tower foundation(?)) above the
locomotive...

Rich Behrendt
ELHS #384
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Brezicki"
To: "EL Mailing List" ; "Paul Tupaczewski"
; "Bill Sheppard"
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: NYSW Interchange; was: (erielack) Telegraph symbols (2)


> Okay, let me summarize this topic. We've established that BT is Passaic
> Jct
> and BE is Bergen or Bergen Jct, at the S end of Croxton Yd. As Paul says,
> toward the end of EL, BE was the preferred interchange point with NYS&W.
> This makes sense, with most traffic routed via Scranton at that point; why
> haul it up to Passaic Jct? When traffic was on the Erie side, Passaic Jct
> was preferred, hence "BT Turns" out of Port. I looked over several
> consists
> for the one EB manifest still routed via Port in 1975-76: PO-98. It often
> carried Susie-Q cars, they were all listed as NYS BE, and that's where it
> appears they were physically interchanged, even a trio of cars destined
> for
> Saddlebrook, near Passaic.
>
> Concerning the tariff, doesn't the consist always list the tariff break
> point? For example, MW-97 usually carried a h/e block of empty parts cars
> for Bedford-PC. The interchange listed is RV (Ravenna), but Steve Timko
> says
> the physical interchange was actually Akron (AK).
>
> Paul B
>
> Toward the end of the EL, the majority of NYS&W interchange occurred at
> Croxton (NYS&W came in and got the cars directly from the EL) - maybe
> that's BE? By the end, Passaic Jct. (BT) was no longer a favored
> interchange point (albeit still used)
>
> - Paul
>
> After examining the consist of 1/SF-100, it appears what we have
> here is NYS&W traffic routed via Bergen (aka Croxton Yard). To my
> knowledge, EL and NYS&W interchanged traffic here as a matter of
> operating convenience even though the tariffs broke over Passaic
> Junction. Jim Guthrie may have another view on this matter, however.
>
>
> Bill Sheppard
>
>
>
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