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Re: (erielack) Well, Well, Well!
Ben,
I will certainly post this as you wish to the Elections Forum. It's a
shame people are so reluctant to participate actively and instead
leaving any discussion or debate to this list. I am especially
disappointed since several of the Board members joined the forum, yet
have as here, remained mute. So much for espousing the Board is so open
and approachable...when it suits them I suppose. Oh, but wait...they are
too busy.
I feel you adequately summed up my feelings after reading this, I have
let Mr. Larrabee know in no uncertain terms how I felt about it. On one
level, it was a very personal disappointment. I don't know if it was
stupidity, arrogance or both, but it is an embarrassment to all ELHS
subscribers.
I will follow your excellent suggestion, one more year and if nothing
changes, I will exercise the only vote I have. Some people who just want
to believe that all is well with the ELHS will applaud this I am sure,
that is for them to sort out. I was raised to speak up when I witness
something wrong, I value that teaching greatly and am not sorry for my
participation in trying to bring democracy and progress to the ELHS.
There comes a point though when others have to take a stand and not
stand idly by. The time is now for every "member" of the ELHS has to
make a choice for themselves. I've made mine.
You might find it strange, but even though we disagree, I appreciate
members that have express their support for leaving things as they are.
At least they were willing to take a public position. For that they have
my respect.
Regards,
Will Shultz
Benton Bartlett wrote:
>Let me open this note with a statement that the whole ELHS management
>discussion including this note belongs on a different forum. I request the
>Mr. Schultz insures that this note gets to the EL-Elections forum in the
>appropriate place.
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>Let me start with a little background. I joined the ERIE Railfan Society in
>1974 and have been a member continuously. Randy - my # is 250 which makes
>me an old ERIE 0-8-0 yard goat. I have remained quiet like most members
>have to this point, but can no longer remain so. My primary interest is
>modeling ERIE, with accurate history being an important factor in my modeling.
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>This note will eventually become personal in case anyone wants to delete at
>this point.
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>I have read some very lucid comments from the keyboards of Shawn Karney,
>Rick Sedlisky, Rich Tubbs and many more. Two nights ago I still equated
>the situation as the Indians (members) trying to decide if there should be
>a war. The Army (Board of Directors) had decided to circle the wagons and
>wait it out. Rick closed his note with the recommendation to have some sort
>of group to diffuse the situation.
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>But now we are informed of a position that our beloved President/Chairman
>(General Custer perhaps) has taken with another society. I now read that
>he has taken the liberty to discuss and declare a conclusion based on
>incomplete analysis of the ELHS member survey. Further more to my knowledge
>these results were not shared with the Great Unwashed Members of the ELHS.
>This may not be a violation of the By-Laws, but certainly it appears to
>violate the ethics of such a society. Mr. Chairman your pointed sarcasm
>about whether the current BOD would be re-elected was uncalled for,
>particularly to a third party. Additionally I would say your timing was
>poor at best, if not arrogant. It is time for renewal notices to come out,
>you know.
>When I started to put this note together, I was curious how you would
>rationlize elected vs. self perpetuating officers - I no longer care. I was
>interested in how other societies prospered or failed - I no longer care.
>I intend to renew for one more year to see how the Board of Directors
>handles this situation. I beleive the Chairman has created an embarrassing
>situation for them.
>Along with self-perpatuating goes self-disciplinig. It will be interesting
>to see what the membership numbers look like by Feb. 2006.
>Schuyler if I misspelled, my apologies. If I have used poor grammar I
>apologize. If I have improperly interperted your note to the R&LHS please
>let the Great Unwashed know. Beyond that I do not care to hear your sarcasm.
>I have written this note in public because I beleive your actions affect
>all members that participated in last falls ELHS survey, not just me.
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>Benton Bartlett
>ELHS #250
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