Re: (erielack) Marion Div. post-4/1/76

[Will Enser <alcoman_@_net.bluemoon.net>]

Steve and Mike

THANK YOU very much for the detailed explanation.  It makes alot more 
sense now.

Regards

Will


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 Smtimko_@_aol.com wrote:

> Will and list....
>
> Mike Connor did a good job of explaining the former EL seniority in short
> form.  Nobody can explain it in long form......
>
> It all boils down to this.  When CR was formed, and right to the end  of
> Conrail, the company and the brotherhoods (UTU and BLE) could not agree on a
> common seniority roster that would protect the work of the former terminal areas
> and road operations.  Thus the red-headed step-child was born. It was a  mess
> and a bone of contention for all.
>
> Like MJC indicated, there were prior rights.  ALL employees had a  common
> seniority date of 04-01-76.  Everyone ALSO had their PRIOR ROAD  seniority date.
> That was their Prior Right's seniority.
>
> Let's briefly look at a former EL terminal area:  Youngstown.   Youngstown
> had crews from EL origin, PRR origin and NYC origin.  When  Conrail was born,
> the terminal area consisted of (EL) Brier Hill, Niles,  NK and Ferrona and
> (PC--former PRR) Haselton and (PC--former NYC) McGuffey  yards.  Former EL was by
> far the larger yard with a dozen or more crews  operating daily, followed by
> PC-PRR and PC-NYC.  All yards were  consolidated and operations centralized into
> Brier Hill, Haselton and  Ferrona.  An "Order of Selection" list was derived
> and each road had their  pick of yard jobs, reflected upon by the number of
> jobs that they held  PRE-CR.  For instance, the order of selection went like
> this:  (Not  necessarily 100% correct, but you can see the picture  from this)  1
> EL-Yard, 2 NYC, 3 PRR, 4 EL Yard, 5 EL Road, 5 PRR,  7, EL Yard, 8, EL Road,
> 9 NYC, etc.  That translated into when jobs  were ESTABLISHED in the
> Youngstown Consolidated Terminal the  Local Chairman could pick the jobs that he wanted
> for his men, in order as  shown above.  The EL Local Chairman would get pick
> # 1,4,5,7 and  8, etc.  THEN, when jobs were up for bid, the former EL men had
> the  first pick for those specific jobs. Vacancies were filled from an extra
> list, selected in the same method, but jobs were filled in order.  So you
> could have a PRR engineer working on an EL job, with an EL conductor and if the
> brakeman was off, you could have a NYC brakemen, but they still represented
> an  EL  job as far as equity.
>
> Mileage, equity and other issues also entered into this formula and it was  a
> mess.  It resulted in PRR guys working a local in Salem, OH on the PC to  be
> replaced by former EL guys because they operated the Lisbon Local from Niles
> prior to CR.  Also resulted in many Brier Hill road men going to Harrisburg
> and New Haven to work with their Conrail seniority because they could hold
> nothing closer with their former EL seniority.  Meadville men going to  Buffalo
> and Cleveland, etc, etc.
>
> There's much, much more to this that I have shown, and there's much  more to
> it than I know or understand, but what MJC and I have provided is the  short
> version of a very long and complex story.
>
> SMT
>

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