Re: (erielack) Erie & B & O

["Michael Connor" <mjconnor_rr_@_hotmail.com>]

Frederick D. Underwood was the Erie president involved.  Jewett was gone for 
several years and Eben B. Thomas had moved from the Erie to the Lehigh 
Valley creating the vacancy that FDU filled for a quarter century or more. 
There isa story in Hungerford's "Men of Erie," IIRC, detailing this. Daniel 
Willard, FDU's VP-O on the Erie, later became President of the B&O and 
acquired most of the CH&D.  The student exceeded the teacher.  It certainly 
would have made a more positive Erie future if FDU had found a way to keep 
the CH&D without bankrupting the Erie.  The whole transaction is another of 
the Erie's Lost Opportunities.

>From: "Michael Dye" <luxpan_@_hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Michael Dye" <luxpan_@_hotmail.com>
>To: root_@_net.bluemoon.net, erielack@lists.railfan.net
>Subject: Re: (erielack) Erie & B & O
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:39:01 -0500
>
>The operating agreement which had the B&O operating Erie freights into 
>Indianapolis came about as a result of the Erie's purchase of the 
>Cincinnati, Hamilton & Dayton RR (Put into place when the Erie's president 
>(Jewett?) was out of the country. When he returned and saw the CH&D's 
>financial condition, he cancelled the deal. B&O purchased CH&D, gaining 
>B&O's second line into Indiana. A result of the deal was that the Erie 
>gained rights on the Indianapolis line and the B&O hauled the trains. So, 
>"technically" Indianapolis WAS on-line for the Erie.
>
>As an aside, the only thing remotely 'Erie' in Indy, is that the office 
>building that last housed the EL's agent still exists, overgrown in a VERY 
>evil part of town near the fairgrounds.
>
>Michael Dye, ELHS #1516
>
>
>
>>From: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." <root_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>>Reply-To: "J. Henry Priebe Jr." <root_@_net.bluemoon.net>
>>To: Hoboken <hoboken_@_vfemail.net>
>>CC: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
>>Subject: Re: (erielack) Erie & B & O
>>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 14:07:31 -0500 (EST)
>>
>>On Tue, 21 Dec 2004, Hoboken wrote:
>>
>> > My Erie Railroad map of the early 1950's shows that the Dayton Branch
>> > continuing on south and then west to Indianapolis, via trackage rights
>> > over the B & O.  It also shows the Bradford Division continuing on 
>>south
>> > via trackage rights over the B & O.  Curiously, this allowed the Erie 
>>to
>> > call its Indianapolis office an "on-line" office.
>> >
>> > My question is whether the Erie had a unique relationship with the B & 
>>O
>> > to allow the Erie to incorporate these two sections of B & O line into
>> > its own system.  The second question is whether there were any other
>> > sections of B & O track over which the Erie had trackage rights.  
>>Third,
>> > did the Erie have this kind of relationship with any other railroad?
>>
>>Didn't the Erie and B&O have a joint agreement on the Bradford Branch near
>>Mt. Jewett in PA?
>>
>>Henry
>>
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