re: (erielack) Salamanca turntable

["Michael Connor" <mjconnor_rr_@_hotmail.com>]

John
I believe the Erie had a Joint Facility Agreement with the BR&P (B&O) for 
the turning of engines on the East Salamanca wye at "X" dollars per engine.  
In working up the AFE (Authority for Expediture) justifying the new 
Turntable the expense of operation without the new Turntable would be a 
factor.  The distance from Salamanca to East Salamanca on the B&O's 
single-track line  is 1.35 miles.   Turning on the East Salamanca wye 
involved occupying the B&O southbound Main Track and, I believe, the 
movement would require use of at least a two-man engine crew.  WDB is 
absolutely correct that the Erie management had to consider this very 
carefully but the costs of this potentially delay-ridden and labor-intensive 
operation certainly assisted the swing of economics in favor of the new 
turntable.
M J Connor


>From: "Elaine and John Redden" <ejredden_@_frontiernet.net>
>Reply-To: "Elaine and John Redden" <ejredden_@_frontiernet.net>
>To: <erielack_@_Lists.Railfan.net>
>Subject: re: (erielack) Salamanca turntable Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 21:20:24 
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>WDB wrote:
>
>Comment:
>
>This was a very late investment in steam--practically a waste of
>money--necessitated by the fact that there were not as yet enough diesels 
>to
>equip the
>whole main line, coupled with the company's apparent strategy of
>prioritizing
>those segments of the main line with grades for dieselization, while 
>leaving
>the
>heavily reengineered Allegany Division until last.  I'll bet senior
>management
>really fussed over this one--I would have!  A good example of expenditures
>that sometimes must be made in the railroad business whether you like it or
>not.
>
>
>
>I spoke with my Dad about the replacement of the Salamanca turntable; he 
>was
>acquainted
>with the hostler there.  At the time of the upgrade, the hostler routinely
>took engines to
>E. Salamanca, in order to turn them on the B&O wye there.
>
>Perhaps the Erie unsuccessfully tried to strike a deal with the B&O, for a
>permanent
>arrangement to use their wye?  If Berkshires were being turned this way
>regularly during
>1944-45, and full dieselization were anticipated, it would seem likely that
>Erie management
>would have wanted to continue this practice. . .
>
>JR
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