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Re: (erielack) Latest DIAMOND
I haven't received this latest Diamond, yet. When was it sent out?
Thanks,
Vinnie
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_neo.rr.com>
To: <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: (erielack) Latest DIAMOND
> Mike, Ed and listers,
>
> I have an EL document dated 1975 of traffic accounts for Cleveland and
> points east toward Leavittsburg. I have transcribed it into an Excel
> spreadsheet and can forward it to anyone that may be interested. Just
> contact me off list and I will email it to you. It includes track
location
> (there are at least two industries I can think of that were served by the
PC
> and EL), TOFC, and also commodity in and/or out. In total, there are 77
> customers on the list, 13 of those are TOFC customers, another 32 were
> either in North Randall or Solon, with North Randall being the real
revenue
> source outside of ore traffic. This was a document created for the sales
> department by the traffic and research departments of the EL. So the fact
> is, that not all of these clients were receiving rail service. It was
most
> likely used as a source for sales to help generate revenue on the line.
> However, I can tell you that a lot of these customers were shipping and
> receiving via EL rail service. The frequency, sadly, is not known or, at
> the least, not in these documents.
>
> Also of note in the new Diamond is the photo on the back cover. The
caption
> states it is the commuter as it "highballs out of Cleveland... with train
28
> bound for Youngstown." However, the signal it is approaching is the
signal
> for West End junction where the train will make its way onto CUT tracks
for
> the trip into Terminal Tower. Also, the shadows give it away as the
street
> to the right of the train opposite East 55th street yard is Track Avenue,
> which paralleled the yard from East 55th to Martin Avenue. The street was
> on the west side of the yard, the sun is beating down on it so this is
early
> morning. The picture on pages 4-5 is the same train, same morning, with
> the photographer making a 180 degree pivot and that caption is correct.
> There are some great shots of commuter 28/29 in Dave McKay's Morningsun
Book
> "Trackside Around Cleveland". The EL, by the way, has more pages devoted
to
> it in that book than any other railroad in the Cleveland/Northeastern Ohio
> area. There are also some shots of EL power on Conrail trains in/around
> Cleveland on former PC track. A great source for those interested in the
> Cleveland line.
>
> Again, feel free to contact me off list if interested in that Excel file.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Spinelli" <idrsspin_@_yahoo.com>
> To: <erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:13 PM
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Latest DIAMOND
>
>
> > They had an interurban facility at the East 55th
> > Street yard (sometimes called Von Wiler Yard).
> >
> > A lot of the intermodal was handled in Akron on the
> > mainline and driven the 30 miles to Cleveland.
> > Especially the eastbound movements. Going all-rail
> > would add 57 miles and a run-around in Leavittsburg.
> >
> > I never heard that the EL wanted to abandon the
> > Cleveland branch, they had quite a bit of business on
> > it, even after the ore traffic slowed down. There was
> > a large food warehouse, oil refinery, and an
> > industrial park in North Randall. Even today NS keeps
> > two switch crews busy. There was a chemical company in
> > Aurora and I believe another major food facility in
> > Solon, NS doesn't go that dar anymore. So IMHO I don't
> > think the EL really wanted to eliminate that line.
> >
> > Somewhere I had a list of major accounts on the
> > Erie/EL but I can't find it at the moment, so I can't
> > be more specific. It is/was a neat line, I enjoy
> > tracking it down after work.
> >
> > Mike Spinelli
> > MP S 215.5
> >
> > --- "Montgomery, Edward T"
> > <Edward.Montgomery_@_fcps.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> For some reason, I have always had an interest in
> >> the Cleveland Branch
> >> of the Erie, even before I became an Erie fan.
> >> There is some
> >> interesting information here and I've just begun
> >> reading about it. The
> >> cover photo of the RS's leading a Youngstown
> >> commuter run poses a
> >> thought. Notice that the RS units do no have the
> >> usual "wagon wheel"
> >> radio antenna. I thought that was standard with
> >> Erie units.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Here's another question, and it may be answered in
> >> the next DIAMOND but
> >> did Erie or EL ever seek TOFC of Intermodal freight
> >> to or from Cleveland
> >> to compete with NYC and PC? It would seem like a
> >> logical thing for them
> >> to do. I've also read several comments at this site
> >> about how EL was in
> >> the process of attempting to abandon the Cleveland
> >> Branch as they
> >> approached the time of Conrail. That would give me
> >> the thought that the
> >> line was no longer producing any revenue.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed Montgomery
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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