(erielack) Re: Sleepers (Benjamin Loder)

["j.m." <squid57_@_gmail.com>]

http://www.trainweb.org/canadianrailways/CanadaCalling/February1998.html
The Sleeper Line Inc. sold two former VIA passenger cars earlier this year: Former VIA sleeper Clearwater River was built by Pullman Standard in 1949 as Erie 10&6 sleeper Benjamin Loder; later sold to Canadian National in 1958 and numbered 2149, same name. Transferred to VIA March 1978, placed in storage in January 1990 and placed for sale August, 1990.
This car was built by Pullman Standard in 1948 as NYC 10443, a 22 roomette sleeper named Thunder Bay. This was sold to CN in 1958 where it became CN 2067 and renamed Valpariso. It was converted to a baggage dormitory with 14 roomettes in 1973; renumbered CN 9479. It was then transferred to VIA in March 1978. It was placed in storage December of 1992. The equipment had been stored at Montreal, Province of Quebec. The former Benjamin Loder is believed to be the sole survivor of the seven 7 cars (Benjamin Loder, Charles Minot, Daniel Craig Mccallum, Eleazar Lord, James Gore King, Marvin Kent, and William Reynolds) built by Pullman Standard, to plan 4129A in lot 6797, for the Erie in 1949. The two cars were purchased by a group of physicians under the "Gateway to Nashville" (Tennessee, USA) corporate flag. The new owners intend to significantly modify the interiors of the cars.

Here is a quote and a URL to the original, about the Benjamin Loder. It is a 9 1/2 year old article (02/1998.) I hope the URL makes the quote ok.
j.mceachen

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  Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:32:33 EDT
  From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
  Subject: Re:Re: (erielack) Sleepers [wasLV]

  The Erie's President-series were 10-6s; five of the seven went to CNR in 1967.  The Youngstowns were 10-5s; "Pride" went to Strates; "Spirit" went to Conrail as staff car 11.  The fate of the two 4-6-4s, Scenic Cacade and Scenic Ridge, was not defined by:

  (Joe Welsh; DIAMOND, Vol 16 #2)

  Randy Brown
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  Tim,
     
    Weren't they 10-5 sleepers?.  Only the DL&W cars were 10-6 cars.

    Rich
    
  Tim Stuy <njmidland_@_verizon.net> wrote:
    The only Erie/EL cars that made it to Canada that I'm aware of were the Erie "president series" 10-6 sleepers.

  Tim

  On 9/15/07, Paul Brezicki wrote:
  >
  > I recall working on 4-6-4's on the CN SuperContinental in the mid-70's; I
  > wonder if these were the Erie cars? I knew we had some ex-EL cars, but not
  > being the serious EL fan I am now, I didn't investigate further. It does
  > give me a good feeling to know that I probably worked on some ex-EL
  > equipment. It was a challenge to "make up" the upper berths for the night
  > when the train was bouncing along at 75 per.
  > Paul B

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