Re: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions

["Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>]

Steve,

What the heck was ATWF??

Paul B

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_windstream.net>
To: "Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org" <erielack@lists.elhts.org>; "Paul Brezicki" 
<doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions


> Paul,
>
> For what it's worth, the Passing Report shows movement from BX to station
> 2660 (Attica) for 3 cars on train ATWF.  Nothing from 2660.
>
> Steve
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Brezicki [mailto:doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:50 AM
>> To: EL Mailing List; Smtimko_@_aol.com
>> Subject: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
>>
>>
>> Steve and List,
>>
>> I have a few questions about EL operations on this branch; Steve, I think
>> you may be familiar with this area also. The first involves
>> interchange of
>> salt traffic with the G&W. It appears that this took place at 3
>> locations:
>> the bulk of it occurred at Greigsville on the former DL&W main, and less
>> than a mile from the big salt mine at Retsof; G&W Jct (Caledonia) on the
>> Erie Rochester branch; and indirectly via P&L (Pittsburgh &
>> Lehigh) Jct to
>> B&O's BR&P line at Silver Springs on the Erie Buffalo main. (This last
>> became the interchange with D&H when it assumed traffic rights on
>> Conrail).
>> Why 3 interchanges for the salt traffic?
>>
>> Secondly, was all of the Attica branch traffic routed through Buffalo, or
>> did some head directly east from Attica? As far as I can tell, operations
>> consisted of the following:
>> RC-98 or 298, BFO-Rochester and running off BR-100 from Meadville
>> RM-97, Rochester-BFO
>> Groveland Turn out of Bison, mostly salt off the G&W at Greigsville
>> Avon local, based at Avon and running west as far as Attica
>>
>> In addition, the salt business was heavy enough to warrant solid salt
>> consists, although I don't know how frequently these were
>> operated. Much of
>> this salt traffic traffic headed east to the Port of Albany,
>> which continued
>> after 1976; the D&H operated dedicated consists of this traffic.
>>
>> In the 1970's, both BM-7 and BM-9 usually operated via Attica and
>> River Jct
>> mainly to avoid the steep WB grade on the B&SW. Did these trains and EB
>> trains like ATC-4 and BS-2 pick up Attica branch cars at Attica
>> to save the
>> 25 mile backhaul to Bison?
>>
>> As an aside, the name "Attica Branch" is an anomaly, since
>> branchlines are
>> generally named for the endpoint, not the mainline Jct; eg: it's
>> the Dayton
>> Branch, not the Marion Branch.
>>
>> Paul B
>>
>>
>>
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