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RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
Paul,
Here's the entire consist, not sure what it may reveal. The other two
stations are Lancaster and Depew.
ERIE 11520 ATWF BX 2660 E
EL 14117 ATWF BX 2660 E
EL 68657 ATWF BX 2660
EJE 35154 ATWF BX 2760 E
EL 18624 ATWF BX 2765
EL 18647 ATWF BX 2765
BLE 19054 ATWF BX 2765 E
CBQ 30267 ATWF BX 2765
MILW 99163 ATWF BX 2765
MILW 99651 ATWF BX 2765
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Brezicki [mailto:doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net]
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:14 AM
> To: Stephen Twarogowski; Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
>
>
> Steve,
>
> What the heck was ATWF??
>
> Paul B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_windstream.net>
> To: "Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org" <erielack@lists.elhts.org>;
> "Paul Brezicki"
> <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:31 AM
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
>
>
> > Paul,
> >
> > For what it's worth, the Passing Report shows movement from BX
> to station
> > 2660 (Attica) for 3 cars on train ATWF. Nothing from 2660.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul Brezicki [mailto:doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net]
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:50 AM
> >> To: EL Mailing List; Smtimko_@_aol.com
> >> Subject: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve and List,
> >>
> >> I have a few questions about EL operations on this branch;
> Steve, I think
> >> you may be familiar with this area also. The first involves
> >> interchange of
> >> salt traffic with the G&W. It appears that this took place at 3
> >> locations:
> >> the bulk of it occurred at Greigsville on the former DL&W
> main, and less
> >> than a mile from the big salt mine at Retsof; G&W Jct
> (Caledonia) on the
> >> Erie Rochester branch; and indirectly via P&L (Pittsburgh &
> >> Lehigh) Jct to
> >> B&O's BR&P line at Silver Springs on the Erie Buffalo main. (This last
> >> became the interchange with D&H when it assumed traffic rights on
> >> Conrail).
> >> Why 3 interchanges for the salt traffic?
> >>
> >> Secondly, was all of the Attica branch traffic routed through
> Buffalo, or
> >> did some head directly east from Attica? As far as I can tell,
> operations
> >> consisted of the following:
> >> RC-98 or 298, BFO-Rochester and running off BR-100 from Meadville
> >> RM-97, Rochester-BFO
> >> Groveland Turn out of Bison, mostly salt off the G&W at Greigsville
> >> Avon local, based at Avon and running west as far as Attica
> >>
> >> In addition, the salt business was heavy enough to warrant solid salt
> >> consists, although I don't know how frequently these were
> >> operated. Much of
> >> this salt traffic traffic headed east to the Port of Albany,
> >> which continued
> >> after 1976; the D&H operated dedicated consists of this traffic.
> >>
> >> In the 1970's, both BM-7 and BM-9 usually operated via Attica and
> >> River Jct
> >> mainly to avoid the steep WB grade on the B&SW. Did these trains and EB
> >> trains like ATC-4 and BS-2 pick up Attica branch cars at Attica
> >> to save the
> >> 25 mile backhaul to Bison?
> >>
> >> As an aside, the name "Attica Branch" is an anomaly, since
> >> branchlines are
> >> generally named for the endpoint, not the mainline Jct; eg: it's
> >> the Dayton
> >> Branch, not the Marion Branch.
> >>
> >> Paul B
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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