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RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
BX in this instance is the telegraph symbol for Buffalo. The 4 digit number
is the station (refer to an Employee TT) where the car is destined. So in
this case the cars are headed from BX on train ATWF for one of those station
destinations.
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JJordan [mailto:eltrainmaster_@_copper.net]
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 1:28 PM
> To: EL Mail List; Stephen Twarogowski; Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org
> Subject: Re: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
>
>
> Steve-
>
> Does the "BX" indicate a box car? I noticed that some of the EL/Erie
> numbers fall in the series for gondolas and covered hoppers.
>
> -Joe Jordan
> Train Nut Central
> http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/
>
> At 12:49 PM 9/23/07 -0400, Paul Brezicki wrote:
> >A 12 car train working Lancaster and Depew must be a local turn.
> My guess on
> >the symbol is ATtica Way Freight. covers the Buffalo line from Bison to
> >Attica.
> >
> >Paul B
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_windstream.net>
> >To: "Paul Brezicki" <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>; "Erielack@Lists.
> Elhts. Org"
> ><erielack_@_lists.elhts.org>
> >Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:05 PM
> >Subject: RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> >
> >
> >> Paul,
> >>
> >> Here's the entire consist, not sure what it may reveal. The other two
> >> stations are Lancaster and Depew.
> >>
> >> ERIE 11520 ATWF BX 2660 E
> >> EL 14117 ATWF BX 2660 E
> >> EL 68657 ATWF BX 2660
> >> EJE 35154 ATWF BX 2760 E
> >> EL 18624 ATWF BX 2765
> >> EL 18647 ATWF BX 2765
> >> BLE 19054 ATWF BX 2765 E
> >> CBQ 30267 ATWF BX 2765
> >> MILW 99163 ATWF BX 2765
> >> MILW 99651 ATWF BX 2765
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Paul Brezicki [mailto:doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net]
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:14 AM
> >>> To: Stephen Twarogowski; Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org
> >>> Subject: Re: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Steve,
> >>>
> >>> What the heck was ATWF??
> >>>
> >>> Paul B
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Stephen Twarogowski" <stwarogowski_@_windstream.net>
> >>> To: "Erielack_@_Lists. Elhts. Org" <erielack@lists.elhts.org>;
> >>> "Paul Brezicki"
> >>> <doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:31 AM
> >>> Subject: RE: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Paul,
> >>> >
> >>> > For what it's worth, the Passing Report shows movement from BX
> >>> to station
> >>> > 2660 (Attica) for 3 cars on train ATWF. Nothing from 2660.
> >>> >
> >>> > Steve
> >>> >
> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>> >> From: Paul Brezicki [mailto:doctorpb_@_bellsouth.net]
> >>> >> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:50 AM
> >>> >> To: EL Mailing List; Smtimko_@_aol.com
> >>> >> Subject: (erielack) Attica Branch Questions
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Steve and List,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I have a few questions about EL operations on this branch;
> >>> Steve, I think
> >>> >> you may be familiar with this area also. The first involves
> >>> >> interchange of
> >>> >> salt traffic with the G&W. It appears that this took place at 3
> >>> >> locations:
> >>> >> the bulk of it occurred at Greigsville on the former DL&W
> >>> main, and less
> >>> >> than a mile from the big salt mine at Retsof; G&W Jct
> >>> (Caledonia) on the
> >>> >> Erie Rochester branch; and indirectly via P&L (Pittsburgh &
> >>> >> Lehigh) Jct to
> >>> >> B&O's BR&P line at Silver Springs on the Erie Buffalo
> main. (This last
> >>> >> became the interchange with D&H when it assumed traffic rights on
> >>> >> Conrail).
> >>> >> Why 3 interchanges for the salt traffic?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Secondly, was all of the Attica branch traffic routed through
> >>> Buffalo, or
> >>> >> did some head directly east from Attica? As far as I can tell,
> >>> operations
> >>> >> consisted of the following:
> >>> >> RC-98 or 298, BFO-Rochester and running off BR-100 from Meadville
> >>> >> RM-97, Rochester-BFO
> >>> >> Groveland Turn out of Bison, mostly salt off the G&W at Greigsville
> >>> >> Avon local, based at Avon and running west as far as Attica
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In addition, the salt business was heavy enough to warrant
> solid salt
> >>> >> consists, although I don't know how frequently these were
> >>> >> operated. Much of
> >>> >> this salt traffic traffic headed east to the Port of Albany,
> >>> >> which continued
> >>> >> after 1976; the D&H operated dedicated consists of this traffic.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In the 1970's, both BM-7 and BM-9 usually operated via Attica and
> >>> >> River Jct
> >>> >> mainly to avoid the steep WB grade on the B&SW. Did these
> trains and
> >>> >> EB
> >>> >> trains like ATC-4 and BS-2 pick up Attica branch cars at Attica
> >>> >> to save the
> >>> >> 25 mile backhaul to Bison?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As an aside, the name "Attica Branch" is an anomaly, since
> >>> >> branchlines are
> >>> >> generally named for the endpoint, not the mainline Jct; eg: it's
> >>> >> the Dayton
> >>> >> Branch, not the Marion Branch.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Paul B
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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