(rshsdepot) "Real" railroads in NY City Streets

[Jim Dent <jdent_@_erols.com>]

Received from Kenyon F. Karl...

None of the railroad cars in the photograph have the 'radial couplers' and
rounded ends required for operation on the very sharp curves that are
usually encountered on city streetcar trackage. There still remains a very
small chance that the cars were moved ONE AT A TIME over the streetcar track
using a special coupler with jointed drawbar between the locomotive and
freight car. Additional confirmation that interurban freight cars complying
with specifications established by the Central Electric Railroad Association
were rarely (if ever) handled by the nearby steam railroads, thus there is
little reason for an interuban freight car from the midwestern trolley lines
to stray into New York City.

Kenyon F. Karl
Kenyon_Karl_@_mail.com
http://www.new-england-rail-trails.org
http://www.new-england-public-transit.org
http://www.northernrailtrail.org
http://www.trainweb.org/nhrra


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From: rshsdepot-owner_@_lists.railfan.net
[mailto:rshsdepot-owner_@_lists.railfan.net]On Behalf Of Paul S. Luchter
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:09 AM
To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net
Subject: Re: (rshsdepot) "Real" railroads in NY City Streets


By 1910, the 4th Avenue line south of Grand Central is doubtful for how they
got there...perhaps they were somehow transferred to the streetcar tracks,
maybe onto the 14th Street line, or other line that crossed the rail on the
west side...otherwise it might be lighted over and a temporary float bridge,
since here is evidently a temporary siding...

Paul
- -----Original Message-----
From: Steven Delibert <stevdel_@_prodigy.net>
To: rshsdepot_@_lists.railfan.net <rshsdepot@lists.railfan.net>
Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:47 PM
Subject: (rshsdepot) "Real" railroads in NY City Streets


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>Following on our thread several months ago about comings and goings of New
>York Central and predecessors in city streets south of 42nd Street, here's
a
>photo of a plant under construction at Ave D and 14th Street around 1910 --
>along one side (I can't tell if it's 14th St or Ave D) are what look like
>real class I RR freight cars.  How would they have gotten there?  Were
there
>branches that far over from the NY&H line down 4th Avenue and Bowery?  Were
>there once carfloats and float bridges onto the east side as there were so
>many onto the west side?  Or . . . ?
>Thanks
>Steve Delibert
>

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