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- Subject: Re: (erielack) Re: place names (was subject matter)
- From: Charles_Walsh_@_berlex.com
- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 11:38:56 -0500
Len,
Technically, there was a station of sorts at Manunka Chunk, which consisted
of a covered platform adjacent to the tunnel for an across-the-platform
transfer from the Old Road to the Bel-Del and vice versa. As you're
probably aware, Bel-Del trains had trackage rights to East Stroudsburg
(actually Gravel Place for servicing) into the 1950s, long after Manunka
Chunk's heyday. But you're right, I don't recall a station building being
there either (in the old photos in front of the tunnel), but my memory must
be faulty since I can't imagine passengers waiting out there in the winter
cold.
Chuck
"Len VanderJagt"
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01/25/2006 11:24 AM
Please respond to
"Len VanderJagt"
Most fun name on the DL&W.
Nominee: Manunka Chunk Junction
Can you say this name without smiling? I can only imagine what folks
traveling the Old Road thought the conductor at called out. I am unaware
of
a station ever having been there, however. There was, of course, the
tower.
In the 70s, last time I was there, the embankment/fill for the Pennsy
connection was easily discernible, as was the location of the interlocking
tower.
On the Greenwood Lake, there was, of course, aquatic and when Ottey. Or
want to.
This is what my speech recognition software hears when I say Pequannock and
Wanaque (wha-knockee)or Wah-Nah-Cue.
Or how about Annalomink? Also known as Gravel Place. Maybe that is the
meaning of the Native American word.
Or Tunkhannock. Maybe that is properly translated as 'creek where we could
use a humongous bridge.'
I enjoyed the NJT post just because it brought back memories of different
trainmen I knew, and how they would pronounce station names en route.
Humor tends to reflect perspective. That is usually a good thing. Keep
smiling.
Len
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From: "EL List Daily" <erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 5:33 AM
Subject: EL List Daily V3 #1906
>
> EL List Daily Wednesday, January 25 2006 Volume 03 : Number
> 1906
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>
> Subjects:
>
> Re: (erielack) subject matter
> Re:Re: (erielack) subject matter
> (erielack) Springfield train meet this weekend
> RE: (erielack) Website Update
> (erielack) Flags,Diamonds and Statues vol. 18, No.1
> Re: (erielack) subject matter
> Re: (erielack) EL locomotive and equipment pack for MSTS
> Re: (erielack) subject matter
> Re: (erielack) subject matter
> RE: (erielack) weird towns on the EL systems (was: subject matter )
> (erielack) Ups trailers On EL
> RE: (erielack) Ups trailers On EL
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 08:42:25 -0500
> From: bob gillis <robertgillis_@_verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) subject matter
>
> Peter Heimbach wrote:
>
>>The first timer on NJT, Long. Never came close to the EL subject
>>matter. It was rather worthless.
>>
> I agree. Sounds to me that some writer/reporter from west of
> Philadelphia probably told his editor that he was going to Long Branch
> and was told write a "humorous" story about rail travel.
>
> bob gillis
>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:00:55 EDT
> From: "Janet & Randy Brown" <jananran_@_mymailstation.com>
> Subject: Re:Re: (erielack) subject matter
>
> You do realize, I hope, that both your messages are off-topic -- as is
> this one -- since none of this concerns ERIE, DL&W or EL history or
> operations.
>
> See how easy it is to slip?
>
> Randy Brown
> - --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Peter Heimbach wrote:
>
>>The first timer on NJT, Long. Never came close to the EL subject
>>matter. It was rather worthless.
>>
> I agree. Sounds to me that some writer/reporter from west of
> Philadelphia probably told his editor that he was going to Long Branch
> and was told write a "humorous" story about rail travel.
>
> bob gillis
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 10:47:26 EST
> From: JJLofland_@_aol.com
> Subject: (erielack) Springfield train meet this weekend
>
> If you are going to be going to the Amherst Societies meet at Springfield
> this coming weekend please stop and say HI. You could buy something if
> you
> want, but please stop and make yourself known.
>
> Joe Lofland
> JJLModels
>
> in the Stroh Building (the small one)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:12:40 -0500
> From: "Bugno, John" <john.bugno_@_ngc.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Website Update
>
> Does anyone have a DL&W Roster for the Scranton Division during this
> time frame they could provide???
>
>
> John
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org
> [mailto:erielack-owner_@_lists.elhts.org] On Behalf Of
> jon-n-bev.liles_@_insightbb.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:26 PM
> To: erielack_@_lists.railfan.net
> Subject: (erielack) Website Update
>
> List,
>
> I have added Erie Roster for Allegany Division - 1945:
> http://www.jon-n-bevliles.net/RAILROAD/rosters/erie-alle-45.html
>
> I have added Erie Roster for Susquehanna Division - 1945:
> http://www.jon-n-bevliles.net/RAILROAD/rosters/erie-susq-45.html
>
> Visit my Roster Homepage:
> http://www.jon-n-bevliles.net/RAILROAD/rosters/rosters.html
>
> More to come!
>
> Note: I am optimizing these files to display in 1024 x 768 resolution
> or better with normal (100%) size text. If anyone is still using 800 x
> 600 resolution, or is using larger or largest (>100%) text size, they
> may not display properly.
>
> Jon Liles
> ELHS # 3158
> ELHTS # 45
> CVRHS # 195
> NMRA # 125464
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:27:05 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: martinpl3_@_earthlink.com
> Subject: (erielack) Flags,Diamonds and Statues vol. 18, No.1
>
> While this issue is devoted primarily to the L&HR as it was on May 28,
> 1959; there is a section on the Sussex Branch, with a credit to Bob
Bahrs;
> and other shots of ERIE, Lackawanna and EL trains in Binghamton,
> Susquehanna and Waverly.
> This issue means a lot to me because it names a lot of L&H guys I worked
> with forty to forty five years ago. Thanks to the lister, former EL
> ticket agent, who clued me in on this issue.
> Philip Martin
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:20:24 -0500
> From: Jon Scaptura <jon_@_scaptura.com>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) subject matter
>
> Having never been to Jersey - I got a kick out of the email. Do all
> Jersey towns have funny names or are there some that are easy to
> pronounce and spell? All kidding aside, where do those funny names
> come from anyway?
>
> Jon (raised in a town with funny name: Owego) Scaptura
> Endicott, NY
>
> At 08:42 AM 1/24/2006, bob gillis wrote:
>
>
>>Peter Heimbach wrote:
>>
>>>The first timer on NJT, Long. Never came close to the EL subject
>>>matter. It was rather worthless.
>>I agree. Sounds to me that some writer/reporter from west of
>>Philadelphia probably told his editor that he was going to Long
>>Branch and was told write a "humorous" story about rail travel.
>>
>>bob gillis
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 17:34:01 -0500
> From: Walter Conklin <wc8666a_@_american.edu>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) EL locomotive and equipment pack for MSTS
>
> Henry, The developer has not given a release date yet. Walter
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 15:21:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Gary R. Kazin" <gkazin_@_yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) subject matter
>
> - --- Jon Scaptura <jon_@_scaptura.com> wrote:
>> Having never been to Jersey - I got a kick out of the email.
>
> Boy, what you've missed!
>
>> Do all Jersey towns have funny names or are there some that
>> are easy to pronounce and spell? All kidding aside, where do
>> those funny names come from anyway?
>
> Some are reported to derived from the place names used before white
people
> came and ruined North America. Around here we have Parsippany,
> Pequannock, Hopatcong, Netcong among many others.
>
> Others are derived from places white people lived or for white people.
> Dover (from New Hampshire, not England), Mountain Lakes, Morristown,
> Madison, etc.
>
> If you think the names here are funny, go out on 'the Island' and ride
the
> LIRR...
>
> Gary R. Kazin
> DL&W Milepost R35.7
> Rockaway, New Jersey
>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 18:31:36 -0500
> From: bob gillis <robertgillis_@_verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: (erielack) subject matter
>
> So as to not offend some sensitive souls I have replied privately.
>
> bob gillis
>
> Jon Scaptura wrote:
>
>> Having never been to Jersey - I got a kick out of the email. Do all
>> Jersey towns have funny names or are there some that are easy to
>> pronounce and spell? All kidding aside, where do those funny names
>> come from anyway?
>>
>> Jon (raised in a town with funny name: Owego) Scaptura
>> Endicott, NY
>>
>> At 08:42 AM 1/24/2006, bob gillis wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Peter Heimbach wrote:
>>>
>>>> The first timer on NJT, Long. Never came close to the EL subject
>>>> matter. It was rather worthless.
>>>
>>> I agree. Sounds to me that some writer/reporter from west of
>>> Philadelphia probably told his editor that he was going to Long
>>> Branch and was told write a "humorous" story about rail travel.
>>>
>>> bob gillis
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 20:13:13 -0500
> From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) weird towns on the EL systems (was: subject
> matter )
>
> Jon Scaptura wrote:
>
>> Having never been to Jersey
>
> What you've missed! :)
>
>> Do all
>> Jersey towns have funny names or are there some that are easy to
>> pronounce and spell? All kidding aside, where do those funny names
>> come from anyway?
>
> Well, the EL in NJ definitely went through towns with wacky names. Let's
> see here...
>
> Ho-Ho-Kus (Erie main line) - Native American derivation, I believe
>
> Hoboken - Native American derivation
>
> Mahwah - Another Native American derivation
>
> Port Morris - Why is this weird? The town is located at least 30 miles
> from any navigable through waterways. (it was named for its original
> location on the Morris Canal)
>
> Lake Hopatcong - Native American derivation
>
> Boonton - Not really weird, but I'll just vent after living there for 27
> years: THERE'S AN 'N' IN THERE! Almost everyone not familiar with the
town
> invariably spells it "BOOTON" (including the EL, who stenciled caboose
> C187 for the "BOOTON DRILL" :)
>
> The weirdness extends beyond NJ's borders, but I'll let others unlock
> those names... :)
>
> - Paul, happy to bring this thread back to list topic :)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 21:48:17 -0500 (EST)
> From: squeaky_@_netsync.net
> Subject: (erielack) Ups trailers On EL
>
> Group, What type of trailers did EL haul for UPS? I am wondering about
> the shorter pup type? I do have several of the old Athearn and other Mfg
> that I could use for a NY100(?) train. The new 85' TOFC will not look
> good on my small/tight curves. I thought that I could cut those 20'
> trailers up into the pups or other short trailers. Also didn't i see an
> article somewhere about redoing a flatcar to take a trailer?
> Thanks Mike Dickinson
> ELHS#837 ELHTS#80
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:05:13 -0500
> From: "Tupaczewski, Paul R (Paul)" <paultup_@_lucent.com>
> Subject: RE: (erielack) Ups trailers On EL
>
> Mike Dickinson asked:
>
>> Group, What type of trailers did EL haul for UPS? I am wondering about
>> the shorter pup type? I do have several of the old Athearn
>> and other Mfg
>> that I could use for a NY100(?) train. The new 85' TOFC will not look
>> good on my small/tight curves. I thought that I could cut those 20'
>> trailers up into the pups or other short trailers.
>
> The Athearn trailers are 40' ones - you mean you want to cut them into
20'
> pups, correct?
>
> The UPS pups that Rail Power Products made several years back (and
Athearn
> now owns, and I believe has also released) were good models of that
> particular trailer, but I think these didn't come into use until the
> 1980s. All UPS used in EL years were those 40' trailers, as well as
leased
> 40' trailers from others.
>
> But remember, there's nothing stopping you from taking a pair of pups,
> painting them up in the same fashion as the Athearn 40' UPS trailers.
> Putting a pair of these on a 53' flat would essentially look like a
> shrunken 85' flat with 2 40' trailers, and for a layout with tight
curves,
> this can be an acceptable alternative. It is YOUR model, and you
certainly
> have the right to use modelers' license here! :)
>
>
>
>> Also
>> didn't i see an
>> article somewhere about redoing a flatcar to take a trailer?
>
> I don't remember the issue, but Larry DeYoung did an excellent article on
> converting a Tyco (yes!) flatcar into an EL 7010-series 53'
single-trailer
> piggyback flat. These would be ideal for a layout with tight turns.
>
> - Paul
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